Turbo passport

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Re: Turbo passport

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So I just got an idea, might be possible that my engine being recently rebuilt even with new oil pump, is putting too much oil pressure to the turbo? I've been reading about oil restrictors for turbo applications, but I'm not completely sure.
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Re: Turbo passport

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Oil restrictors are for ball bearing turbos only. Too much oil on ball bearings make the balls hydroplane, creating tons of drag and other problems. Unless your putting out 100+psi of oil pressure your turbo will take whatever oil your throwing at it.

Where is your crankcase breather? You could be pressurizing your crankcase, which will also pressurize the center housing of the turbo.

If the drain is open and free to drain to the pan, then its something other than a bad seal.
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Re: Turbo passport

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joeshmoe44883 wrote:Oil restrictors are for ball bearing turbos only. Too much oil on ball bearings make the balls hydroplane, creating tons of drag and other problems. Unless your putting out 100+psi of oil pressure your turbo will take whatever oil your throwing at it.

Where is your crankcase breather? You could be pressurizing your crankcase, which will also pressurize the center housing of the turbo.

If the drain is open and free to drain to the pan, then its something other than a bad seal.



Mine is still the one with the draft tube, drain is flowing free, I tried draining to a bottle just for testing purposes, and there was a good flow of oil, and I didn't see any oil coming from the oil pan nipple when doing it, so the drain is fine, I do was running without the cold side attached to my intake, but I don't think that's causing the oil passing through the seal.
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01 Trooper with a 4jg2 swap
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Re: Turbo passport

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College has kept me busy, but the turbo install is finally complete, I was still getting some oil through my intake but somebody told me i needed to boost, and the more boost it made the better it would seal and eventually it happened, no more oil! :D power is great, i was actually expecting less, it appears to be wastegated at 8 psi, but its more than enough for me, i gave the pump 1/4 of a turn and i cant see any smoke, only a slight gray haze which is what some folks here agree to be the best. Im getting some temperature problems when hitting hills, but i think its because im running without a fan shroud, temp gets slightly over 200F so I just go easier on her, my MPG have increased a lot!! after doind the 4x4 conversion and using the 31 tires my MPG dropped badly, but now they appear to be actually better, I straightpiped it and it sounds so wonderful! the gt1749 appears to be a good choice for this engine, theres almost no turbo lag and it has an amazing throttle response, now the truck does get attention haha, ill upload pictures later. Thanks everyone for the tips and tricks! without you it just wouldnt happen.
95 Honda passport with a c223 swap. Garrett gt1749, 15 psi of boost. Straighpiped and intercooled. 2” lift, ball joint flip, 1 1/2” diff drop. 33x12.5 R15 tires, 12000 pound winch.

01 Trooper with a 4jg2 swap
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Re: Turbo passport

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Here's a short video on how the exhaust sounds, still need to upload one of how it drives. :) https://youtu.be/YxLDNViQ0l4
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robgt22 wrote:College has kept me busy, but the turbo install is finally complete --I straightpiped it and it sounds so wonderful! the gt1749 appears to be a good choice for this engine, theres almost no turbo lag and it has an amazing throttle response, now the truck does get attention haha, ill upload pictures later. Thanks everyone for the tips and tricks! without you it just wouldnt happen.


Very cool!
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Re: Turbo passport

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I'm sorry if this is a dumb question but I couldn't find it here in the forum. Which benefits would I get from raising the injectors pop up pressure? More power? Or am I good running like that?
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Re: Turbo passport

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A little update, the rebuilt turbo eventually started to blow oil into my intake again, so I decided to stop losing time and got a new cartridge, I'm going to install it tomorrow and we'll see how everything goes, I'm also raising the boost from 7 to 10 psi, I hope this is the last time I have to remove my turbo.
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01 Trooper with a 4jg2 swap
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Re: Turbo passport

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So things didn't stop right there, I've got an intercooler from a Mitsubishi l200, Ima figure out where to install it, if I can mount it on my engine or at the front, it even comes with a small fan for it so I'm planning to wire it with a thermo switch.
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95 Honda passport with a c223 swap. Garrett gt1749, 15 psi of boost. Straighpiped and intercooled. 2” lift, ball joint flip, 1 1/2” diff drop. 33x12.5 R15 tires, 12000 pound winch.

01 Trooper with a 4jg2 swap
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Re: Turbo passport

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I finally had time to install the intercooler. I mounted it on top of the engine and the only problem I have is that I'll need to remove the intercooler to add oil lol, but with time I'll figure out another way to mount it. I'm not leaving the pvc elbow from the piping, I used it because I wanted to test how everything worked and I didn't have any rubber elbow laying around. I disconnected the waste gate so now I get 15 psi of boost, that was my reading till the elbow blew off :lol: I'll get the right elbow and try everything again. I'm planning to add a roof scoop so I get better cooling. With more boost I do see more power, and it sounds a lot better, completely sick I'd say :D
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95 Honda passport with a c223 swap. Garrett gt1749, 15 psi of boost. Straighpiped and intercooled. 2” lift, ball joint flip, 1 1/2” diff drop. 33x12.5 R15 tires, 12000 pound winch.

01 Trooper with a 4jg2 swap
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Re: Turbo passport

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I know that this is an old thread. How has your project held up? There were a lot of nay sayers when I talked about transplanting a c223 into a Ford Ranger. When I said turbo I got lots of doom and gloom and warnings about too much boost. Your passport should be about the same weight as my Ford Ranger.
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Re: Turbo passport

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bthood wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:54 pm
I know that this is an old thread. How has your project held up? There were a lot of nay sayers when I talked about transplanting a c223 into a Ford Ranger. When I said turbo I got lots of doom and gloom and warnings about too much boost. Your passport should be about the same weight as my Ford Ranger.
Thanks.
Brian, we've had members here who put C223s into Rangers and Dakotas as well. As for the turbo, I remember telling you that it would be best to get a turbo injection pump if you planned to add a turbocharger. And with turbo, manifolds, and pump, it could get pricey (if you can even find them). The amount of boost you're talking about (if I recall correctly) should not be too much.

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I was hoping that I could hear first hand from this person. I was just wondering if this person still had their project and if it held over time.
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bthood wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:12 pm
I was hoping that I could hear first hand from this person. I was just wondering if this person still had their project and if it held over time.
Yes, that would be good to know. He hasn't been here since December.

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